It reads, in part: "My opinion as a graduate engineer is that CVA has a critical design defect, which should be corrected immediately, and should require a product recall. He fired the muzzleloader and the barrel exploded. Statistics in the councils Injury Facts 2005-2006 show a 48 percent decrease over a 10-year period ending in 2004 (the latest year for which data is available at the time of this writing). Unfortuantely, Terry, the "basis in fact" will be presented to you in court, as your injured consumers have no other recourse. I'll revisit often as I continue to explore my new BP hobby. +1 on bore polishing. Example serial numbers: 61-13-XXXXXX-95 or 61-13-XXXXXX-96. We have a detailed video showing just how its done. CVA Wolf Stainless Steel Black FOS 50Cal The CVA Wolf 209 is more gun for less money. In May 1999 Blackpowder Products, Inc. purchased the assets of Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc. and now operates under the trade name of Connecticut Valley Arms and/or CVA. In my opinion, far too many people have had their lives destroyed by reportedly using cheap imported muzzleloaders as directed by manufacturer's printed instructions. All rights reserved. It is a "red herring" argument to attempt to turn your lack of knowledge about your own product into a 2nd Amendment issue. That Triple Seven is some kick ass stuff. Just starting in the sport there gun runner. 90 grains Triple 7 loose powder with 245 grain powerbelt at 50 yards and I'm right on. Might try going to 245s after reading this thread. Indeed, the CVA Wolf is one of the best selling inline muzzleloaders in the United States for good reason: it’s well designed, user friendly, reliable, and accurate. It was a new Traditions .50 caliber inline. 4 within 2moa with one flier, probably me on that one. My first muzzleloader (been shooting for life) is a CVA Wolf. Firearms use, in general, is a very safe sport, with firearms related injuries falling year after year. CVA Accura MR firing pin bushing issues. To take off the barrel unscrew the forearm screw and pull off the forearm. I have had. You have no known testing facilities of your own. No exit wound = not much blood trail even when you kill them. Just all over the paper. His wife was present at the scene of the accident. The bullet will not seat after the first shot unless I run several patches down the barrel first. I have had no trouble with either and both will shoot under MOA with hand loads. Not every gun is going to like Powerbelts or pellets. Disclaimer: This video does not promote the sale of any of the items shown. The Savage 10ML-II is the best built frontloader of them all, using the Savage magnum centerfire barrel as a starting point. 9/13 3091930919 owner’s instruction and safety manual for wolf this pamphlet cont ains information critical to the safe use and maintenance of cva firearms. Take care. According to one attorney, his client is an ex-marine who has been trained for about 13 years on how to clean, load and fire a muzzle loading rifle. Today a whitetail is one step closer to Heaven. Terry L. Eby, BPI National Sales Manager / Retail, e-mails in part: "Randy: I don't consider my language careless and I absolutely stand by my opinion that your position has no basis in fact--but much in conjecture and assumption. Especially Marcseatac! The New Northwest Legal Wolf™ has many new features including all the features that made the original Wolf the number one selling muzzleloader in the world. I recently purchased a Cva Accura V2 with the nitride barrel treatment. I recently purchased a Cva Accura V2 with the nitride barrel treatment. One thing is they do not like a standard #209 primer. I switch to T/C hollow points and have not had a problem with them at all. There is a body of evidence that shows the CVA branded guns recalled in 1997 can be dangerous with factory recommended loads. So my Wolf has been fine the last few years, but I took it to the range to sight it for early muzzleloader. I have had an opportunity to thoroughly RANGE test the CVA wolf. The fundamentals of shooting I have. In August 1997 CVA implemented a Voluntary Recall of In-Line rifle models with serial numbers ending in -95 and -96. The 2nd Amendment is not an entitlement for you to foist substandard product, built to unknown or non-existent standards, on the American consumer. It would seem to me that a person would want to use a freely rotating jag and I like the idea of maybe using scotch-brite. I got a CVA wolf as well and I tried shooting powerbelts from it and the accuracy sucked. Copyright 2005, 2016 by Randy Wakeman. Myself, I have not figured out what the proper method to use on this would be and don't want to ruin a barrel. It is in 50 Cal. By the way, I was already using the Remington Kleanbore primers (lucky selection I guess). There are no muzzleloading standards and there is no governing body on the American muzzleloading scene to effect any semblance of quality control or reasonable safety testing. CVA Wolf Muzzleloader .50 cal 24" Blued Barrel with 3-9x32 KonuShot Scope and Gun Case - Black Stock. Only thing is that there has been no exit wound on the three deer I've shot. It took 40-45 stitches to close this wound. (.50 Caliber). started bp in 1968 and fell in love with it. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...light=accuracy, http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...00-3-1#reviews. Rifle was returned to CVA for the accuracy problem. If you have a CVA In-Line model with such a serial number, DO NOT USE OR ALLOW ANYONE ELSE TO USE THE GUN. The man has lost his right hand as a result of the explosion. If you have one of these rifles, please call CVA immediately at 770-449-4687 for complete details and a free replacement gun. Thanks again. I obviously know it don't mean an adult can use it aw well. More are indicated. Wolf Blued, Black Stocks, with KonuShot 3-9x32 and Case Combo. I own two CVA rifles, a 222 rem and a 35 whelen. I can drive nails with about any other gun. The WOLF is our most affordable break-action muzzleloader, but it’s still packed with features that only CVA can offer at its price and this year it’s available with a Nitride treated stainless steel barrel. The "LDR" in the name stands for "long-distance rifle," and that's … 9/13 3091930919 owner’s instruction and safety manual for wolf this pamphlet cont ains information critical to the safe use and maintenance of cva firearms. Hey guys so heres the deal i have a cva wolf thats about four years old and i first started shooting powerbelts with the aero tips but did not feel that they had the killing power i was looking for and they did not pattern excelent. (NEVER exceed a powder manufacturers maximum recommended charge and always approach maximum loads with caution. A concerned consumer recently wrote to Mark Hendricks, Technical Manager, Connecticut Valley Arms (CVA), 5988 Peachtree Corners East Norcross, GA 30071. Here's 24 Basspro reviews for the Wolf. Thanks all. I have had very good accuracy with my CVA Accura V2. That is what the description for the actual gun days. I'd like to give my final assessment after dealing with some issues. I'll try your suggestions and post the results here when I know more. Any claims relating to the above described Voluntary Recall should be addressed to Connecticut Valley Arms, Inc., not Blackpowder Products, Inc. Blackpowder Products, Inc. assumes no liability for any products manufactured prior to January 1, 1998. Aug 24, 2020 #18 OP . Grouped within 2 moa with the same amunition used in the previous test, 5 shots. This isn't just my opinion: you won't find muzzleloading legends like Doc White, Henry Ball, or Del Ramsey dissenting. I know the Bergara barrels are known for there accuracy and this is one of the reasons I bought them, that and the fact I am teaching my granddaughter on the 222 rem and feel it to be very safe only having one shot and having to cock the hammer, a great form of … by Travis299. Upon arrival the barrel was dirty, almost as if a few primers had been shot through and not cleaned, but the breech plug looked brand new. Maintaining its light weight and ease of maneuverability, this rifle is the perfect choice for youth, small-framed adults, or even for the shooter who just wants a quick handling gun for brush hunting. After a catastrophic failure, his injuries reportedly consisted of a torn right nostril from the base of the nostril to just below the right eye socket. After that simply open the gun as if loading a primer and pull up on the barrel. Aug 24, 2020 #17 iashow Senior Member. In August 1997 CVA implemented a Voluntary Recall of In-Line rifle models with serial numbers ending in -95 and -96. I've tried 245 and 295 grain powerbelts and have tried both two and three 50 grain Pyrodex pellets. The accident occurred three days after he received the rifle as a gift from his daughter. The CVA Wolf Muzzleloading Rifle has been redesigned with features typically found only on more expensive muzzleloaders. I'm really torn between the CVA Wolf and the CVA Optima V2. While every effort is made to include accurate and correct images, descriptions and pricing for all products, inadvertent errors may occur. That is what the description for the actual gun days. I guess I'm thinking I should change one thing at a time until I find the area where I need the most work. CVA Wolf accuracy issues. Everything is nice and tight and the seams are very tight. The CVA WOLF has all the features that made the original WOLF the number one selling muzzleloader in the world - plus many new features. Well, Jim, I'll answer you here and now. Jimmy was having accuracy problems with his CVA and his buddy suggested he try his regular load, a heavier load. Traditions Vortek Strikerfire LDR. She transported him to the hospital ER. I'm really torn between the CVA Wolf and the CVA Optima V2. I like them both,they both shoot accurate groups at 65 yards for me. First of all, you are apparently unaware of what you are selling. you must read this This turned my Optima into a tack driver at 100yds using 245 gr Powerbelts. built to hunt • superior accuracy • lifetime warranty blackpowder products, inc 1685 boggs road • suite 300 duluth, ga 30096 www.cva.com form 103ba • rev. I have had no trouble with either and both will shoot under MOA with hand loads. Using this method, I have shot my flintlock 100s of times without a full cleaning." … In fact, a new report from the National Safety Council shows that accidental firearm related fatalities remained at record lows in 2004. I use a CVA Wolf with 100gr 777 and 295gr powerbelts. Another attorney's report details how a man purchased a new CVA .50 caliber inline, a package of .50 caliber / 50 grain Hodgdon brand Triple Seven propellant pellets, a package of Winchester brand W209 Primers and a CVA brand .50 caliber Complete Muzzleloading Accessory Outfit at a chain store, according to the receipt. If you want the greater knockdown power of the hotter 120- to 150-grain charges, then the stiffer electroplated copper skirts of the hollow-based FPB, shown above right, do tend to better hold up to the added pressures of such … There are, fortunately rare, exceptions. In yet another CVA incident, a man with ten years of muzzleloading under his belt was sighting in a new scope on his CVA inline. After cleaning the barrel thoroughly I could see marks in between the rifling. You manufacture no muzzleloaders; you merely import them from a company in Spain. CVA's recalled guns, deficient in design, materials and quality control (in my opinion) gave the great sport of muzzleloading a bad name. Blackhorn simply does not ignite reliably in factory CVA breech plugs. Upon arrival the barrel was dirty, almost as if a few primers had been shot through and not cleaned, but the breech plug looked brand new. I was about to change rounds. I had 60 or 70 muzzel loader in my life .. built a bunch and shot in 1000's of matches .. casting your bullets and making a magic lube is lots of fun. I've read great things about the Wolf and people on here have told me as much but I'm concerned it might be more of a gun for a kid getting into hunting. Featuring a QRBP (Quick-Release Breech Plug), which is really easy to remove without tools, the CVA Wolf is very simple to clean and maintain. I heard nothing but positive comments before I bought it. Received back yesterday and attached is the newest test fire for accuracy. No accuracy or penetration issues there. Get some of the new Remington Kleanbore Muzzle Loader primers. CVA has improved the ramrod, on my gun it has the twist up threaded end and no palm saver. I've read great things about the Wolf and people on here have told me as much but I'm concerned it might be more of a gun for a kid getting into hunting. A little success with my first black powder gun and it may give me confidence to go to something like that. Out of our CVA test rifles, I have gotten a bit better accuracy with the two AEROLITE bullets shown above left - when shooting charges of 110-grains or less. You would only tell me that the "minimum specification" was 700 kp/cm2. This man was in the emergency room within about two hours of his new purchase. RoundBalls; 2 mo ago; 15 The WOLF is our most affordable break-action muzzleloader, but it’s still packed with features that only CVA can offer at its price. Very good advice. -Editor.). A few mention loads and sabots/bullets. you might consider scrubbing the bore with a next-size down jag and a 'patch' cut from a 3M handpad, medium grit. Update on 35 Whelen problems. You recommend three. In other words, you would not tell me at what load pressure the barrel would burst. His brother and nephew were present. These guns are great, and good for people who are new to Black Powder shooting and hunting. It is my considered opinion that muzzleloading rifles proofed to only 10,000 PSI are not fit to be used. The stainless steel 30’’ barrel is made of a high-tech 416-grade steel which is used in military and successfully resists corrosion, is rustproof, and … In August 1997 CVA implemented a Voluntary Recall of In-Line rifle models with serial numbers ending in -95 and -96. His nose and his right cheek bone were broken. "I have read many postings on various sites, in addition to your own, regarding the outstanding accuracy that shooters are getting from your bullets in their muzzzleloaders. Thanks for your input. Rated 5 out of 5 by Mason from Great Muzzle loader at Great Price I ordered the Wolf with Fiber Optic sites, yet it arrived with a scope mount instead. In August 1997 CVA implemented a Voluntary Recall of In-Line rifle models with serial numbers ending in -95 and -96. It's just like taking apart any simple old break action shotgun. I don't really know how to give up...lol. First off thanks everyone for you input. Flip a coin! It's gotten so bad that they started selling breech plugs specifcally made for Blackhorn 209 powder but only for the V2 Accuras. By whose authority is this done? I actually own one of each, an impact and a wolf. Only had time to lob 5 rounds down range this afternoon and all were within 3 inches of the center of target. While my experience with PowerBelts covers only 5 rifles (CVA, TC and Cabelas) I have found that over loading is what will kill your accuracy. Joined Aug 23, 2020 Messages 217. Teenagers and women looking to get into the sport will find that this weapon is easy to handle and doesn’t kick them back as much thanks to … This is the CVA Apollo gun that had so many personal injury claims filed against it, is that not true? Is this the same attitude that I heard your customer service technician express when he said that the problem I reported had never occurred, therefore it was not possible?". The pity of all this is that proven safe, quality muzzleloaders have never been more plentiful, or more affordable. I'll try the different primers and reduce the powder. One of the newer firearm manufacturers on the market today (they were founded in 1971) CVA is most known for their Muzzleloading rifles- first having only sidelock finished guns as well as kits and, more recently, for their single-shot centerfire. I called customer service and they refunded $30 so I could purchase the Fiber Optic sites from CVA. In one rifle I use 3 – 777 (150grns) with a CVA 245 on top, rifle is a 50 cal CVA Hunter Bolt Magnum 24” barrel, has a dead blow recoil reducer in the stock, and SVL recoil pad, trigger tuned to 3lbs, with a Bushnell 3200 3x9x40. bullet goes down easy until its about 1 to 2 inches from seating, then it will not budge. I don't have a complaint about either one of these guns. It's a great gun! This is a very cordial forum with knowledgable posters. I have a CVA Optima Pro which is a similar rifle and I had the same issues. I shoot two 777 pellets and power belt 295 grn. If you have one of these rifles, please call CVA immediately at 770-449-4687 for complete details and a free replacement gun. Hodgdon Powder Co. recommends that only two 50 grain equivalent Pyrodex or Triple Seven pellets MAXIMUM be used in .50 caliber inlines. If you have one of these rifles, please call CVA immediately at 770-449-4687 for complete details and a free replacement gun. Maybe an expert who knows what he is doing will happen along and tell us more........... dont get discouraged i tried 8 different loads before i found out what my cva kodiak 50 liked, first of all it likes triple 7 loose powder, and 90 grains of it and second the 295 grain hp powerbelts, will shoot hole inside hole at 50 yards, was shooting here and there with pyrodex loose and different bullet types, just keep working with different loads and powders you will finsd a sweet one and when you do you will know it. In addition to this problem, we discussed the rationale for specifying barrel strength, and I asked you what the strength of CVA muzzleloader barrels was. The overall construction and look of this budget riffle is impressive. It is all the gun you will ever need! The hospital reports that after being stabilized x-rays were taken which revealed a "large metallic FB with spring located at the angle of the mandible.". RoundBalls; 1 mo ago; 3 257 1 mo ago. Jowint; Sep 9, 2015; 10 6K 1 mo ago. The brands you peddle, CVA, Beartooth and Winchester Muzzleloading still come from the same factory that the defective CVA Apollo came from, with the same steel, don't they? If you don't believe the printed results from Lyman Ballistic Laboratories showing 25,000 PSI peak pressures in three pellet loads that you recommend in your manuals for use in your guns that bear a 10,000 PSI area House of Eibar definitive proof mark, you are welcome to take it up with them. The problem is I have no accuracy with the thing. The little CVA short barrel likes 70 grains best with the PB and 80 to 85 with PRB. Need parts and find out what gun the is. I have seen the optima v2's at wal mart at very reasonable prices, was watching for them to clearance the few they had left after season last year, but they never did. I own two CVA rifles, a 222 rem and a 35 whelen. A short while later, one primer was fired per the instructions and then, to sight in the muzzleloader, loaded 3 of the 50 grain pellets, a .50 caliber "PowerBelt" 295 grain hollow point bullet with plastic "sabot" snap-on base and a W209 primer. Unfortunately, that's exactly what Jimmy did and the result was instant, catastrophic failure on the first and only "magnum" load he ever fired and the injuries that he suffered as a result. My other one is a Rossi breach action, 20” barrel, load for it is a 2-777 (100grns) with a Hornady 350 Grain GMX. built to hunt • superior accuracy • lifetime warranty blackpowder products, inc 1685 boggs road • suite 300 duluth, ga 30096 www.cva.com form 103ba • rev. I opened a new container of 777 (open one is 2 or 3 years old, stored well, but still old). Don't use pellets with Powerbelts use smaller loads of FFFg in the neighborhood of 80 grains. if all else fails call cva they should be able to help out as well. by twodot. The last two were touching and within an inch of the target center. The … Your company, "BPI," is Spanish owned and operated. If your implication that we would knowingly put our customers at risk is not defamatory, I don't know what is.". In another incident, a different man, with approximately 20-25 years of experience hunting with muzzleloaders / black powder guns, was target shooting on a Saturday with a friend, using his CVA inline. Thanks again. you must read this Knight Rifles, NEF/H&R and Thompson/Center Arms offer or have offered exemplary inline muzzleloading rifles that you won't be betting your life on. CVAs QRBP (Quick-Release Breech Plug). The attorney believes he was using the gun as directed by the manufacturer on the date of the accident. I've heard and seen enough of this nonsense to last me several lifetimes. I'm using powerbelts as recommended with the literature in the gun. Long Rifle purchase. I know the Bergara barrels are known for there accuracy and this is one of the reasons I bought them, that and the fact I am teaching my granddaughter on the 222 rem and feel it to be very safe only having one shot and having to cock the hammer, a great form of … You have been unable to show that your imported frontloaders are tested with the charges you recommend--charges that are not recommended by powder manufacturers. Two surgeries have already been performed in an attempt to repair the damage to his hand as a result of the explosion. If you have one of these rifles, please call CVA immediately at 770-449-4687 for complete details and a free replacement gun. The CVA Wolf is a .50 caliber muzzleloader that we think will be a perfect fit for those who are smaller than the average hunter. I use a range rod for shooting practice. CVA Trigger reassembly issues.? Don't give up on bp.. I shoot 100 grains of triple 7 and a 245 grain hollow point Powerbelt and have never been dissapointed. 100 percent ambidextrous stock in black. I have a cva wolf 50 ml and I have taken about ten deer with it using 100gr of 777 and 250 gr lead hp sabot. I'd get a good group, and then the next round would be 8" off. I obviously know it don't mean an adult can use it aw well. Cheap, extruded barreled rifles should give anyone pause. CVA’s new line of “Northwest Guns” offer all of the features that shooters love in our Accura V2, Optima V2 and Wolf break-action models, while still meeting the open-breech/ignition requirements of Idaho, Oregon and Washington. I have a brand new cva wolf stainless. The 100% ambidextrous stocks are available in either black or Realtree® EDGE™.